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Dome Engineering Spec Sheet

Every number, component and design decision behind the atmospheric water-harvesting dome β€” pulled from the engineering chats (blades, coil length, Untitled Document 1, long conversation, Image Editing Request). This is the technical reference: airflow path, turbine and blade design, the AWG cooling core, water treatment, the drivetrain, power demand vs. yield, and the master 3D render prompt in full.

01

Overview β€” one idea, two scales

A geodesic dome that pulls water from air. Air enters a hexagonal top intake, is compressed down a vertical Venturi funnel, turns through a large-radius 90Β° curve into a horizontal duct holding inline turbines and an air-to-water heat exchanger, and is cooled below its dew point so water condenses, is treated, and stored. The turbine shaft drives a flywheel and generator; solar sits on the duct; inside is a pond and gardens.

🧊 See it in 3D

Interactive 3D models of the dome, the ducted AWG unit, the centre intake and the aquaponics rig β€” plus build recordings and concept renders β€” are in the Gallery (3D Models).
15 m
Dream commercial dome (Ø)
6 m
Validation prototype (Ø)
~10 yrs
Concept in development
20–40 L
Realistic yield / day
2–4 kW
Continuous power needed
$15k–40k
DIY build est. (AUD)

That build estimate is broken down β€” with a live, editable budget tracker β€” on the Costs & Budget page.

Temporary by design

The Kudla property may be subdivided in 2–3 years, so the whole build is demountable: screw-pile / skid footings (no slab), a boltable frame, and the pond is a portable tank (no dug or lined hole). It can be packed down and the site fully restored. The teardown order + per-subsystem demount spec is on the Schedule.

The honest framing

This is no longer "AI art" β€” the chats walked it from a rough concept to early-stage industrial design where every component is physically connected and logically arranged. But nothing is physically validated yet. The open question is whether the physics holds at all: "there's a chance I've spent ten years thinking about something completely ridiculous."
02

Structure & geometry

ElementSpecNotes
Dome15 m Ø hemisphereTransparent greenhouse-style membrane over a minimal segmented (geodesic) frame
Top intakeHexagonal, 6 flat panelsAngled inward to form a funnel that captures airflow
Vertical funnelNarrows on descentCompresses airflow; should be taller + narrower at the throat than current renders show
Throat β†’ curveLarge-radius 90Β° ductSmooth, continuous, visible transition from vertical to horizontal
Horizontal ductCylindricalHolds the turbines + heat exchanger; only slightly exits the dome wall
Base ringThick continuous circular ringIntegrated water storage + structure
InteriorCentral pond + gardensPond with a fish; bench facing pond; electrical box parallel/tangent to the base ring

Airflow path (locked)

hex top intake β†’ vertical Venturi funnel β†’ narrow throat β†’ 90Β° curved duct β†’ horizontal duct [ helical pre-rotor β†’ turbine 1 β†’ heat exchanger β†’ turbine 2 β†’ turbine 3 ] β†’ exhaust
Dome concept
Latest dome concept β€” geodesic shell, hex top intake, internal funnel, side turbine duct, pond + gardens. images/dome-main-concept.png
03

Turbine & blade design

The system is closer to turbomachinery than to a backyard windmill β€” a ducted axial turbine inside a Venturi accelerator, with pressure staging, flywheel smoothing, AWG extraction and a diffuser. The duct straightens and accelerates the air, so blade choice is very specific.

Recommended rotor

  • Type: twisted axial-flow, lift-based airfoil blades
  • Blade count: 5–7 swept blades (range 5–9); high-solidity rotor (more, narrower blades than a normal wind turbine)
  • Diameter in duct: fill 92–96% of the duct diameter
  • Geometry: aggressive twist rootβ†’tip (because tip speed v = Ο‰r grows with radius), airfoil section, narrower near the tip, moderate chord
  • Material: carbon / composite
  • Add-ons: stator vanes before the rotor + a diffuser cone after it; a short light helical pre-rotor to condition incoming flow
RankBlade typeWhy
BestAxial airfoil (twisted)Highest efficiency in fast ducted flow; quiet; scalable
2ndMixed-flow / sweptBetter pressure handling, less stall under compression
3rdHelicalSmoother torque, quieter, good at low RPM / turbulence
AvoidSavoniusDrag-based, poor efficiency, bad in ducts
AvoidStandard open-air HAWTTuned for free atmosphere, not confined accelerated flow
AvoidFlat bladesEasy to build, terrible efficiency

Tip clearance is critical

The gap between blade tip and duct wall is one of the biggest efficiency levers. Smaller gap β†’ less vortex loss, higher pressure differential. In ducted turbines the duct itself (suction, mass-flow, reduced turbulence) can contribute almost as much as the rotor.

Don't choke the flow

The turbine must be low-resistance β€” it recovers energy without strangling airflow. Over-restrict it and you kill the whole system. The turbine offsets fan/intake energy; it does not power the entire AWG.
04

AWG cooling & condensation core

Atmospheric water generation is, fundamentally, an energy-intensive refrigeration process. Two cooling stages:

  1. Pre-cool β€” intake air through an underground earth-tube loop (~18 Β°C) or a heat exchanger on exhaust air, to cut compressor load.
  2. Active cool β€” a refrigeration coil drops air below dew point; water condenses on the coil and drips to a tray.

Rendered refrigeration rig (the labelled schematic)

SpecValue
Duct diameter750 mm
Duct length2.4 m
Evaporator stages4 Γ— 600 mm, one helical finned coil each
Airflow core600 mm
Compressors4 independent units

Refrigeration vs. desiccant

  • Refrigeration (most practical): reverse-AC β€” scroll/rotary compressor (1–2 kW), big evaporator coil, condenser + fans, intake filters.
  • Desiccant + solar regen (more off-grid): silica gel / lithium chloride absorbs moisture at night, solar heat releases it by day. Lower electrical load, better in dry air, more mechanically complex.
  • Recommended direction: a hybrid β€” refrigeration core with a desiccant assist.

Inline air-to-water heat exchanger

8–10 very thin parallel pipes running vertically across the duct, evenly spaced, positioned between turbine 1 and turbine 2 β€” cooling the air without blocking most of the flow.
Ducted AWG schematic
The most detailed fabrication reference β€” labelled ducted AWG rig: 4-stage evaporator, coil pitch, solar grid, tank, 4 compressors. images/ducted-awg-detail.png
05

Water treatment & storage

drip tray β†’ sediment filter β†’ carbon filter β†’ UV steriliser β†’ mineraliser β†’ 1000 L tank (float valve + overflow bypass)
  • Tank: 1000 L target, food-grade poly or stainless, integrated in the dome base ring.
  • Mineralisation stage matters β€” condensed water is essentially distilled and needs minerals added back for drinking.
  • Optional pump to a pressure tank; overflow bypass to prevent flooding.
  • Multi-stage intake filtration is mandatory β€” dust is a killer for the coils.

Hybrid water sources (more reliable overall)

Rather than pulling 100% from air: AWG + rainwater capture, AWG + fog-harvesting mesh, AWG + greywater recycling.

06

Drivetrain & power generation

horizontal turbine shaft β†’ bearing β†’ 90Β° bevel gear β†’ vertical shaft β†’ vertical flywheel (smoothing/storage) β†’ compact generator
  • The flywheel is a solid circular disk mounted vertically at ground level β€” it smooths torque and stores rotational energy.
  • Generated power runs fans, control systems and can assist (not replace) the compressor.
  • Solar: 3 flat panels in a row on top of the external duct in the render (~400–450 W each).
07

Power demand vs. solar reality

LoadDraw
Per compressor (0.5–0.75 HP)400–700 W
4 compressors total~1.6–2.8 kW
Fans, pumps, controls, inverter loss+200–800 W
Whole system, continuous2–4 kW
Daily energy @ 2–4 kW48–96 kWh/day
AWG efficiency0.3–0.5 kWh per litre

The solar in the render is wildly insufficient

3–4 panels β‰ˆ 1.6–1.8 kW peak β‰ˆ only ~6–9 kWh/day usable in Adelaide, against a need of 40–90 kWh/day. Serious off-grid operation realistically needs 15–30 panels + a large battery bank. Energy β€” not airflow β€” is the limiting factor.

Turbine output (6 m prototype)

WindOutput
Low (3 m/s)50–150 W
Moderate (5 m/s)200–600 W
High (8 m/s)up to 1.5 kW

Turbine output is far below compressor demand β€” it offsets fan energy, it doesn't run the system.

08

Water yield (the rendered rig)

ConditionsRHEstimated output
Hot dry day25–35%5–15 L/day
Average40–55%15–35 L/day
Humid / night65–85%35–70+ L/day
20–40 L
Realistic tuned daily average
80–120 L
Possible on humid nights
<10 L
Dry-day floor
100 L
Original per-day target

This geometry actually outperforms typical small AWGs because of the large airflow volume, long evaporator path, multi-stage cooling and big condensation surface area. But yield is humidity-bound, and Adelaide is dry (summer ~30–60% RH). Run it at night when humidity is highest and ambient temperature lowest.

09

Efficiency moves & smart control

  • Run mostly at night (higher humidity, cooler air).
  • Earth-tube pre-cooling (~18 Β°C) + a solar-thermal updraft (chimney effect) to cut fan/compressor load.
  • Variable-speed compressor matched to conditions; oversize coils for better condensation.
  • Dew-point-targeting controller: temp + humidity + dew-point sensors; only run the compressor when RH > ~50%, use passive airflow first, boost with fans only when needed.

Where the concept is genuinely novel

Most AWGs ignore airflow dynamics and brute-force with compressors. The funnel + turbine pre-optimise airflow and recover energy β€” an estimated 20–40% energy saving vs. a standard AWG. That is the real claim. Not "free / passive water."
10

6 m prototype spec (the deck's number)

ComponentValue
Dome diameter6 m
Height3 m
Funnel throat0.4 m
Duct diameter400 mm
Turbines3 inline

Venturi ratio recommended 1.5:1 to 2.5:1. Intake funnel 2–4 m Ø tapering to a narrow throat. Airflow need for the 100 L/day target: roughly 500–1500 mΒ³/hour (EC axial fans or centrifugal blowers if passive airflow is insufficient).

11

Master 3D render prompt (verbatim)

The locked design description used to generate the concept render β€” kept here exactly so the design intent is recoverable.

A clean, simplified 3D engineering render of a modular dome energy system designed for accurate 3D reconstruction. The structure is a 15 meter diameter hemisphere with a smooth transparent greenhouse-style outer membrane stretched over a minimal segmented frame. The dome surface is soft and slightly translucent. At the top of the dome is a deep hexagonal wind intake made of six flat panels angled inward, forming a funnel shape that captures airflow. The intake feeds into a large vertical funnel inside the dome that narrows smoothly as it descends, clearly showing airflow compression. At the bottom of the vertical funnel is a narrow throat that transitions into a large-radius smooth 90-degree curved duct. The airflow path must be continuous and clearly visible, flowing from the top intake, down the vertical funnel, through the curve, and into a horizontal cylindrical duct that runs toward the side of the dome. Inside the horizontal duct is a hybrid turbine system aligned on a single central shaft. The first section is a short, light helical pre-rotor with thin spiral blades that do not block airflow. After the helical section are three inline axial turbines, evenly spaced along the duct, each slightly smaller than the previous one from front to back. Between the first and second turbines is an inline air-to-water heat exchanger consisting of 8 to 10 very thin parallel pipes running vertically across the airflow. These pipes are evenly spaced, minimal in thickness, and clearly inside the duct without obstructing most of the airflow. The horizontal duct is shorter and only slightly exits the dome wall. On top of the external portion of the duct are exactly three flat rectangular solar panels aligned in a row. The turbine shaft continues out of the duct and connects to a mechanical system. The horizontal shaft passes through a bearing and connects to a 90-degree bevel gear system. This gear redirects motion into a vertical shaft. The vertical shaft drives a large flywheel positioned near ground level inside the dome. The flywheel is a clean, solid circular disk mounted vertically on its axis. Below or connected to the flywheel is a compact generator unit. Inside the dome at ground level is a central circular pond with smooth edges. A very small, clearly visible fish is inside the water. A simple clean park bench is placed near the pond, facing toward it. A large rectangular electrical control box is positioned to the right of the bench, aligned parallel with the dome wall. The base of the dome is a thick continuous circular ring representing integrated internal systems such as water storage and structure. The design is modular and clean. All components must be physically connected and logically arranged. The airflow path, mechanical shaft connections, and system relationships must be obvious and realistic. Style: minimal, clean, solid forms, no textures, no labels, no clutter, no exposed wiring. White background. High clarity for engineering visualization and 3D model generation.
Dome on site
Concept composited onto a real hillside. images/geodome-on-site.jpg
12

Open problems & unknowns

  • Nothing is physically validated β€” does the physics hold at all?
  • Funnel still not aggressive enough in renders β€” needs a taller drop and narrower throat for real compression.
  • Compressor sizing per stage (0.5–0.75 HP est.) depends on refrigerant, condenser efficiency, evaporator + ambient temps.
  • Exact solar count for off-grid (15–30 panels) depends on local solar resource + battery bank.
  • Bevel-gear / turbine sizing not finalised.
  • Reconcile the deck's optimistic "free water" framing with the energy reality (~20–40% savings, not 100% passive).
  • No proper workshop β€” twisted airfoil blades + tight tip clearances are genuinely hard to make DIY, around containers and a truck body.

Reconstructed from the engineering chats in the archive. Numbers are estimates from those conversations, not measured results β€” the project is at concept/render stage. Source files: blades, coil length, Untitled Document 1, long conversation, Image Editing Request.